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H.R. 392, Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act

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Posted by harirajmohan (118) 09 Jan 2018#2876
to Equality:

Yes one should have hope but we can only hope if we see that there is a chance. In this system, we dont see a chance as per current rule and the upcoming rule is unceratin. I am not sure we can hope to get a clean bill that resolves issue for only one country in this messy immigration.

One might not see any hope in below scenarios:
Already worked here for a decade and no change/chance in the current immigration rules.
PD did not move for the last one decade for certain EB category. Administration has done nothing in the last 10 years even though the priority date did not move for 10 years.
Seeing the kids ageing fast and they might not make it to the finish line of PD(which might never come in next 20 years).

I think many dont have above issues or they are still in their 20s and 30s during which we think we can sail through rough sea but once you pass one more decade in waiting or not having earlier PD then you will know how much hopes left.
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Posted by ecibu22 (104) 09 Jan 2018#2877

As i remember Senator Hatch came up with - I-Squared Act of 2015 which has
1) remove per country quota
2) dont count dependents in employment based GC
3) recapture the unused GC in past 2 decades

If that is done. The line will be clear in an year or 2


to Equality:



Senator Hatch himself is retiring this year, but maybe Romney (his most likely successor) will be able to resurrect it. Of course, one never knows what are priorities....
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Posted by IMMITALK (316) 09 Jan 2018#2878
to ecibu22:

One thing is clear that GOP atleast think about legal immigrants and still stupid Desis vote for Dems.
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Posted by cheers1988 (2) 10 Jan 2018#2879
Going by what has been published here: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senato...
The 50,000 diversity visas are being allocated to people under TPS from El Salvador, who entered the country illegally 12-15 years back. I have nothing against these TPS folks. However, it appears that there is nothing in the Senate’s DACA bill that benefits the 500,000+ legals waiting in green card queue. At least Bob Goodlatte’s DACA bill in House has allocated those 50, 000 visas to the employment based immigrants. There should be 100,000+ legal immigrants who entered country 10-15 years back, and have not received the green card. It appears that there will be nothing in the bill that takes care of the H4 Dreamers.

Anyone working closely with SIIA or folks managing that SIIA Facebook post?

Please pass on this message. With 150, 000+ members in SIIA Facebook, it’s time to mobilize people and create a Twitter storm and draw attention of press and Senators. Apart from Senators, House members and White House, the Twitter storm should also target the media too including CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, Fox News, NBC, CBS etc. The twitter message should clearly indicate that 50,000 visas are being reused for other purpose, but nothing has been done to clear the green card backlog for legal immigrants and H4Dreamers, who are waiting since last 10-15 years. SIIA should post the time to publish the message in twitter and provide the required guidance to create the Storm. Even SIIA can mobilize people to call the Senator’s office about this. By tomorrow OR Friday, we should get to know about the proposed details in the DACA Bill. SIIA can plan accordingly and post the message to its members.

I know there is an advocacy event scheduled by SIIA on Feb 8th. However, if nothing is initiated right now to draw the attention of Senate members, who are crafting this DACA bill, then chances of getting anything done in this election year will be difficult.
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Posted by Gong (198) 11 Jan 2018#2880
What's IV's take on HR 392 not included in either the Senate version or Goodlatte's version of DACA fix bill yesterday ?

I was quite optimistic for something to be included in Goodlatte's version, but was disappointed. The extra visas that he added are not enough (in my opinion), and are useful only when USCIS applies spillover properly, or the EB1C crisis finishes.

Thoughts ?
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Posted by ragnarok (39) 11 Jan 2018#2881
to Gong:

I agree and we can see here IV’s strategy is not working
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Posted by dashingdon (515) 11 Jan 2018#2882
to Gong:

Won't be useful because
1. In future ROW demand may goes high and spillover becomes zero.
2. Eb1C filing may go high because of crack down on other visa types on big corporations.

This increase in (GC) visas will get just few hundred visas more to India.... with 200K+ backlog that's virtually nothing.....

That's not a viable solution to the current humongous INDIA backlog issue.
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Posted by vestabet (115) 11 Jan 2018#2883
to Gong:

Could you please explain in details what is the eb1c crisis?
I am really not aware of it
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Posted by ragnarok (39) 11 Jan 2018#2884
to Gong:

IV has a national call tonight may be we can ask them directly on what the hell is happening to HR 392.

Text from facebook event
"As you know, since the last updates we shared about the progress of our bill - H.R.392, things have been moving quickly on multiple fronts.

Over the last few weeks, we have had several important meetings and many more important meetings are planned.

We would like to invite you to a call at 9PM EST on Thursday Jan 11th 2018 to share further updates about the developments on the ground.

The call information is below:
Dial in: (712) 770-4010
Code: 400533"
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Posted by Gong (198) 11 Jan 2018#2885
to ragnarok:

IV meeting sounds like bullshit - pls note that this was scheduled before yesterday's bills came in. Anyway lets see what they say
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Posted by Gkasna (65) 11 Jan 2018#2886
to Gong:

I dont understand why everybody keeps criticizing the people who are working for you. You need to understand IV is not God and every statement they make becomes true we all are humans and sometimes the analysis might go wrong. IV is far far faar better than your crooked employer and these dont care attitude politicians.
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Posted by dreamerforever (199) 11 Jan 2018#2887
to Gkasna:

my employer pays me salary.....how is my employer crooked? and you keep saying the same BS IV is working for us.....and how exactly are they working for us? where are the results of past 10yrs work?LOL...no results hahhaha just more rumors to spread...

looks like VanderLuke made a new ID.....IV is a useless group they need to shut down....they must be ashamed that not a single one of their agenda is on either Goodlatte or Jeff flake's bills...

This is exactly what IV wants so that they can keep collecting donations year after year.....
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Posted by Gkasna (65) 11 Jan 2018#2888
to dreamerforever:

Yeah, your employer keeps fooling you and you keep working on for those peanuts. All employers really deserve sheep like you and what has IV done? look at the cosponsors that signed up for this bill Without anybody's support this bill is a shit it is easy to say what have they done? but you never recognize people's efforts they cannot influence the Govt to implement this rule. Keep aside the donations part it is a choice not mandatory but at least recognize their efforts. I am so sorry for people who work with/for you.
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Posted by rajivn786 (194) 11 Jan 2018#2889
to Gong:

This is what IV will say : Because of IV, the GC number has increased to 175k.
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Posted by gcforevergc (291) 11 Jan 2018#2890
to rajivn786:

I am not supporter of IV , But reason why HR392 is not moving and no one cares about backlog just beacuse of us,
We did not go out and explain how we are suffering to media/congressman/CEO/Church leaders.... so we deserve to be in Q forever
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Posted by rajivn786 (194) 11 Jan 2018#2891
to gcforevergc:

Yes, thats partly right. Now everyone knows about this, but no one gives a damn about legal immigrants.
I did go to the congressman and got it co-sponsored. I even got a reply from Rodney Davis saying he supports.
But that stops there and no one wants to take the bill forward.
Chance of passing HR 392 is 18% as this perchingtree guesses it correctly everytime : Be it H4 EAD, AC 21 etc.
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Posted by ksrfi (305) 11 Jan 2018#2892
I see so much of ranting here from our most rational desi community on Goodlatte Bill. What is that they should have done, just clear all the GC queue. Use some sense guys, you won't get everything that you want from your parents, wife and even kids. I have been following Mr. Goodlatte for over 5 years, he is a very rational man and a great soul with all respect to the educated folks, and most of all a patriot by nature.

Given the circumstances where Dems want DACA and President being adamant on Border Wall, what best could have been achieved. Keep in mind that they cannot disappoint corporations that pay taxes, and they cannot disappoint vote bank either. The current solution is a mid path that does not affect anyone.

Coming to increase in number of EB GC, the current 140K itself are not completely filled by ROW and there have been spillovers to India EB. But as you all know most of the EBs are consumed by EB1C from these WITCH companies, if that continues, EB2/3 India will never move. But look at the beauty here and use brains, with elimination of lottery salary takes the precedence. Number of WITCH applications will go down. With these two steps, available count should significantly go up for EB2/3 India/China.

You can't get the whole earth in a single day, please be reasonable and appreciate the bill. I am for it, initially I hated Trump, but I believe he is doing the best for Indians than Democrats.
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Posted by gcforevergc (291) 11 Jan 2018#2893
to ksrfi:

Immigration bills always done by REP party only, DEM are good at talking but no action
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Posted by ranbon78 (86) 11 Jan 2018#2894
to Gkasna:

Does IV pay you for your publicity effort or here too they are keeping those for your next birth? I know 1st 3 agenda of IV. Please help me to understand next.

1st Agenda : IV is great just donate and dont ask any question.
2nd Agenda : IV is great just donate and dont ask any question.
3rd Agenda : IV is great just donate and dont ask any question.
4th Agenda: ???????
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Posted by dreamer4usa (24) 11 Jan 2018#2895
to gcforevergc:

Totally agree with you. I was in favor of DEM until recent election ..felt bad they lost it.... but slowly realized they are worse than REP ... just bcoz they talk something and do totally different and make Legals as a face of the issue and do nothing for them ultimately
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Posted by familyguy2200 (16) 11 Jan 2018#2896

IV has a national call tonight may be we can ask them directly on what the hell is happening to HR 392.

Text from facebook event
"As you know, since the last updates we shared about the progress of our bill - H.R.392, things have been moving quickly on multiple fronts.

Over the last few weeks, we have had several important meetings and many more important meetings are planned.

We would like to invite you to a call at 9PM EST on Thursday Jan 11th 2018 to share further updates about the developments on the ground.

The call information is below:
Dial in: (712) 770-4010
Code: 400533"



to ragnarok:



Lot of parasites are waiting for IV to do something for them so that they can get green card sooner and continue to troll here instead of talking to their congressman or senator.
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Posted by ragnarok (39) 11 Jan 2018#2897
to familyguy2200:

I think you are trying to get ahead of your self here, I never criticized or cried that IV is not doing anything.They helped us reach 300 co sponsors on this bill and that did not happened overnight, we should at least understand why HR 392 was not included in the comprehensive immigration reform.

I did reach out to my local representative and don't just come here randomly respond to messages without understanding the context.
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Posted by Gkasna (65) 11 Jan 2018#2898
to AceMaan:

Assume, I do not work for IV, I never donated to IV and I do not practice what they ask us to do but atleast I have a decency of respecting their efforts they are putting in and dont criticize them for each and everything happening around immigration.

You free loaders are just looking for something miracle to happen, like what's next? if it does not happen you want somebody to put the blame on.

I normally stay away from online forums my posts count tells you all not like bunch of keyboard junkies good for nothing emasculating everybody who is in support of IV or whoever for that matter. Now getback in your rat hole and keep typing in your nonsense but I am done talking to idiots like you.
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Posted by ranbon78 (86) 11 Jan 2018#2899
to Gkasna:

Ppl here have the decency to appreciate what IV does, including me who supported and donated. But IV has no decency or proper education to talk. As I mentioned earlier that they are arrogant, egotistic, non transparent, non professional and unamenable. And this is the reality. Why do they do that? So that others don’t ask or search for the result, same like deshi sadhus. Got it now?
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Posted by Equality (222) 11 Jan 2018#2900
to IMMITALK:

There are democrats which are trying to push the Bill 392. Mr Essa has been holding on to it till now. if he clears it from Judicial committee then we will have a vote and this bill get 75% vote. If Essa wanted he could have clubbed it with 170 which has been cleared from judicial committee and democrats asked him to do so but he said later. look at the committee vote for 170 video and see who is saying what on official forum
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