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H.R. 392, Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act

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Posted by Equality (213) 11 Jan 2018#3076
to IMMITALK:

There are democrats which are trying to push the Bill 392. Mr Essa has been holding on to it till now. if he clears it from Judicial committee then we will have a vote and this bill get 75% vote. If Essa wanted he could have clubbed it with 170 which has been cleared from judicial committee and democrats asked him to do so but he said later. look at the committee vote for 170 video and see who is saying what on official forum
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Posted by mfd1402 (3168) 11 Jan 2018#3077
to Equality:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/11/dreame...

Looks like NOTHING for legal backlogs .... the extra visas go to the bloody refugees .... this so F***** up ......

Dems do not want to help legals .... they gave the visas to the bloody refugees
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Posted by Equality (213) 11 Jan 2018#3078
to ksrfi:

this country is planning to give a million illegals GC just because they have spent this childhood in this country. but you have to remember all people in eb back logs have children too and they all are legal and there fate in hanging on this small peanut. if dreamers can get 1 million gc then why not hard working, tax paying, law abiding legal immigrants??
what in the world are we asking? just to remove per country quota even with that the wait times will be 5-6 years. do you even understand how it is to wait for such long times for what you deserve
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Posted by AceMan1 (1361) 11 Jan 2018#3079

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/11/dreame...

Looks like NOTHING for legal backlogs .... the extra visas go to the bloody refugees .... this so F***** up ......

Dems do not want to help legals .... they gave the visas to the bloody refugees

to mfd1402:



They are giving GC visas to countries facing Natural Disasters or civil strife. That is a humanitarian selling point for the representatives.
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Posted by LazyImmigrant (66) 12 Jan 2018#3080
to Equality:

Not "just because" - because. And the fact that Dreamers either went to school here, or served in the military. The fact is, they are probably more American than most of us in the EB Queue. It is not an either or question, either reforms would move forward or they will stall. I do not see the possibility of EB rules being changed outside of some other measure. And honestly, the DACA kids is the only pressing immigration issue - if our backlog is not addressed with DACA, we can kiss it goodbye for the next few years. There is no way you'll have two major immigration changes in one presidential term.

I wish HR 3012 would have passed the Senate - that was a clean bill and by now, the backlogs would have reached a predictable level.
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Posted by EnGCEppo (3) 12 Jan 2018#3081
to mfd1402:

It is frustrating to be in caught up in this, but there is no reason to talk ill about refugees.
Most of them are here because they are running for their life and life there is 'bloody'!
While we need to make our case... Let's not forgot empathy or be baseless in the usage of posts please!!
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Posted by thereislight (457) 12 Jan 2018#3082

this country is planning to give a million illegals GC just because they have spent this childhood in this country. but you have to remember all people in eb back logs have children too and they all are legal and there fate in hanging on this small peanut. if dreamers can get 1 million gc then why not hard working, tax paying, law abiding legal immigrants??
what in the world are we asking? just to remove per country quota even with that the wait times will be 5-6 years. do you even understand how it is to wait for such long times for what you deserve


to Equality:



Removing country cap has been wishful thinking. Factually, removing country cap will have provided 34K visas per year to Indians in each EB1/2.

If this week's proposal stays, Indians would get 25K visas per year each.

I say, not a bad deal !!
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Posted by LazyImmigrant (66) 12 Jan 2018#3083
to thereislight:

Only 7% of the additional visas will be available to Indian nationals - so we go from 2800 for EB2/3 to 4000. There will be a 45% reduction in wait times from 70 years to 40 years
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Posted by kaustav78 (183) 12 Jan 2018#3084
to cheers1988:

Yesterday, Trump rejected this bill which was presented by 6 bipartisan senators saying why that 50K Green Card be given to "shithole" countries (read TPS countries)...

When the last CIR bill designed by gang of 8 bipartisan senators got halted in the house, that proposed 50K diversity lottery GC to be allotted to employment based.... but looks like for the Democrats illegals and refugees are more important....

Though it is OK to take care of them but to put them ahead of the line before the legals stuck in backlog is no good.... they should also be provided with some EAD or temporary work visa and should wait in the queue....
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Posted by burtcocaine (261) 12 Jan 2018#3085

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/11/dreame...

Looks like NOTHING for legal backlogs .... the extra visas go to the bloody refugees .... this so F***** up ......

Dems do not want to help legals .... they gave the visas to the bloody refugees

to mfd1402:

People like you will blame and cuss everyone else for their problems.

EB1 and EB5 are both current for India. But I guess you're neither qualified nor rich, basically just like the people you are blaming.

DACA folks came here as children and are more American than you are. Refugees are running away from problems in their home countries. What is your excuse?
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Posted by LazyImmigrant (66) 12 Jan 2018#3086
to kaustav78:

The problem is, when they look at our situation, it doesn't look so bad - we are people working jobs that American's aspire to, make good money, most of us are from stable countries (albeit with problems) - so while our potential may be greater than the refugees, our plight certainly isn't worse.
And politics is often about perception - 50k Haitians getting GCs would be thought of as America helping 50k people in a desperate situation. 50k EB2/3 getting GCs would be interpreted as 50k good jobs eing stolen.
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Posted by thereislight (457) 12 Jan 2018#3087

Only 7% of the additional visas will be available to Indian nationals - so we go from 2800 for EB2/3 to 4000. There will be a 45% reduction in wait times from 70 years to 40 years

to LazyImmigrant:



You got it wrong. There is no 7% cap anymore. The cap is 9940. The difference just here is about 7000 visas. on top of this the 18000 additional visas to each category will go to Indians as spillover since ROW demand is saturated at current levels.
Total 25K more visas for Indians per year.
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Posted by LazyImmigrant (66) 12 Jan 2018#3088
to thereislight:

Ohh i didn't know that - so any ROW EB3/2 gets transferred to EB3/2 for India/China?
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Posted by een771 (2) 12 Jan 2018#3089
to thereislight:

I am not sure about the spillover going forward. If DACA applicants have to apply for GC via EB/FB categories, I think most of the EB ROW visas will be consumed by them. Hence no spillover. Am I wrong?
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Posted by LazyImmigrant (66) 12 Jan 2018#3090
to thereislight:

Good point man!! So right now the deal Trump rejected would have redirected the 50k to TPS, the lawmakers may decide to redirect it to EB and get a deal.
Can't believe i'm saying this - GO TRUMPPP
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Posted by WhatzInANick (58) 12 Jan 2018#3091
to LazyImmigrant:

Don't count your chickens before they're hatched
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Posted by smugtech (147) 12 Jan 2018#3092

this country is planning to give a million illegals GC just because they have spent this childhood in this country. but you have to remember all people in eb back logs have children too and they all are legal and there fate in hanging on this small peanut. if dreamers can get 1 million gc then why not hard working, tax paying, law abiding legal immigrants??
what in the world are we asking? just to remove per country quota even with that the wait times will be 5-6 years. do you even understand how it is to wait for such long times for what you deserve


to Equality:



Because illegals rally, organize and fight for their rights and spend money.

Backlogged people spend 30 mins on the fourms and have no time to meet the lawmakers.Forget about asking to spend a dime.
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Posted by secondPerm08 (512) 12 Jan 2018#3093


Looks like NOTHING for legal backlogs .... the extra visas go to the bloody refugees .... this so F***** up ......

Dems do not want to help legals .... they gave the visas to the bloody refugees

to mfd1402:



and here is Trumps reply to this: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/12/trum...
"“I want a merit based system of immigration and people who will help take our country to the next level. I want safety and security for our people. I want to stop the massive inflow of drugs. I want to fund our military, not do a Dem defund,"

It is clear he is focused on the more comprehensive Raise act that doing a piece meal like HR 392. Raise act does not include any country limit.
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Posted by LazyImmigrant (66) 12 Jan 2018#3094
to WhatzInANick:

hahaha, i've been counting them for 10 years
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Posted by thereislight (457) 12 Jan 2018#3095

I am not sure about the spillover going forward. If DACA applicants have to apply for GC via EB/FB categories, I think most of the EB ROW visas will be consumed by them. Hence no spillover. Am I wrong?

to een771:



Spillover will only be within EB category. When DACA people are given 3 year permits, they are "conditional nonimmigrants" who will be given separate EADs not in EB queue.. This DACA status will go through Rulemaking within one year of passing the Act.

6 (d) TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF CONTINGENT NON-
7 IMMIGRANT STATUS.—
8 (1) WORK AUTHORIZATION.—The Secretary
9 shall grant employment authorization to an alien
10 granted contingent nonimmigrant status who re-
11 quests such authorization.
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Posted by vensajja (80) 12 Jan 2018#3096
to thereislight:

is 9940 figure for EB4/EB5 rt8?
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Posted by Viking2012 (649) 12 Jan 2018#3097

is 9940 figure for EB4/EB5 rt8?

to vensajja:



Yes.

He is getting confused between 7% and 7.1%.
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Posted by Equality (213) 12 Jan 2018#3098
to smugtech:

Are we saying that we should leave work which we are doing and start roaming on roads to get something which should automatically come to us with respect & dignity?
Spend money - So should we bribe people sorry Lobby people ;)
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Posted by ipman3 (33) 12 Jan 2018#3099

Are we saying that we should leave work which we are doing and start roaming on roads to get something which should automatically come to us with respect & dignity?
Spend money - So should we bribe people sorry Lobby people ;)

to Equality:



Whatever the situation you can't even shed an ounce of ego isn't it? Where is your respect and dignity when you have to beg for the GC through letters and tweets towards congressmen? Wait and see, they will give the GC in a silver platter delivered to you just because you believe 'something which should automatically come to us with respect & dignity'. LOL
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Posted by ap1982 (34) 12 Jan 2018#3100
to Equality:

I see so many so called skilled immigrants on twitter which we know most came through these shady outsources and graduated from 10s of thousands of visa mil engineering schools spread all over India. They label themselves as Nationalist, Modi supporters, bash illegals non-stop as if they are somehow superior to those illegals. And 65% of Hindu voted for Trump, and most Indian origins and these so called skilled included keep bashing democrats.

So my question is, why should democrats do anything for nationalist/Modi supporting/Trump loving and illegal bashing foreigners?
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