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Goodlatte bill coming today - Any details ?

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Posted by CrazyTimeToLiv (287) 11 Jan 2018#176
DACA
Media => More dramatic TRP lot of human story
Democrats/Liberals => Vote bank, showing themselves to the be the voice of the minority, making them self feel better
Republicans/Conservatives => midterm elections, Arizona and few key rep states they need to win
Biggest supporters for DACA => Everyone other than breitbart readers
Biggest opposers=> breitbart readers

H1B/EB's
Media => Punching bag, showcasing only the negatives
Democrats/Liberals => H1B/EB's ?? Who
Republicans/Conservatives => they want to fix legal immigration, but they don't want to loose a particular voting block
Biggest supporters for H1B/EB => does not exist
Biggest opposers=> fellow Indians (heard of big lobbying going on by Indian firms against h1b getting any benefits, they want to retain slaves) , EB1 abusers, Indians who feel entitled and praying other would fail, White, black, brown... may be even martians ...

So the chances of anything good coming out of these bills for eb i is zilch... our best bet was 140 EAD which was successfully lobbied away by the corporates...
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Posted by United1WeStand (109) 11 Jan 2018#177

for everything need media coverage. does Legals have it ?

to ChangeYourSelf:


we just whine on trackitt and wont call our congressman, not sending letters or even tweeting about ordeal. no media contact or protest for our cause. we want a gandhi to fight for us and bhagat singh to die for us. we'll be just sitting on our fat a$$ and hope backlog will vanish.
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Posted by riant99 (27) 11 Jan 2018#178
"Trump rejects bipartisan immigration proposal at White House meeting"

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/11/politics/daca-dea...

dont know which one.

Holy Crap !! not sure whats next

updated : a non CNN version

"Senators reach preliminary Dreamers deal, but Trump hasn't signed off
The tentative agreement includes $1.6 billion for wall planning and construction

president has not yet signed off.

The Senate negotiators said they would keep working."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/11/dreame...
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Posted by rajivn786 (108) 11 Jan 2018#179
to riant99:

WHy? They moved additional 50k to refugees and not to EB.
So it;s good.
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Posted by riant99 (27) 11 Jan 2018#180
to rajivn786:

the fear is there may not be anything. of course there is a chance of something better too..
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Posted by rajivn786 (108) 11 Jan 2018#181
to riant99:

I am already in that trance...that nothing will be there for legals.
I decided that I will have to be on H1 throughout my life.
No hope at all!!
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Posted by thereislight (456) 11 Jan 2018#182

Where did you get that number, looks to me it is about 4000, 7% of 58K.

to waitforever123:



According to the proposal, there is no 7% cap anymore, the cap is 9940 per country.

This proposal is MUCH better than status quo. Not only does EB2/3 India get 9940 visas per year each (up from 2800); the proposal also potentially causes 18K additional spill over from ROW to India each for EB2/3.
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Posted by riant99 (27) 11 Jan 2018#183
to rajivn786:

agree. at least there is a small hope until the DACA bill passes that something might be included for us.
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Posted by rajivn786 (108) 11 Jan 2018#184
to riant99:

That will show if Yoder is as powerful as Sen Cotton, but I doubt it based on the letter he and Tulasi sent to Trump not to remove AC 21 extensions. We will know about it in IV call today.
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Posted by rajivn786 (108) 11 Jan 2018#185
to thereislight:

If u see current proposal that's rejected by Trump. this is no longer there.
It has been moved to TPS.
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Posted by mfd1402 (3166) 11 Jan 2018#186

WHy? They moved additional 50k to refugees and not to EB.
So it;s good.

to rajivn786:



It looks like our best hope is Trump ..... he may force them to give the 50k to legals backlogs instead of getting refugees or low immigration countries ....
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Posted by mfd1402 (3166) 11 Jan 2018#187

If u see current proposal that's rejected by Trump. this is no longer there.
It has been moved to TPS.

to rajivn786:



Yeah that was the Dem Senate bipartisan bill that got rejected our hope is the GOP House Goodlatte bill

It looks like our best hope is Trump ..... he may force them to give the 50k to legals backlogs instead of getting refugees or low immigration countries ....
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Posted by riant99 (27) 11 Jan 2018#188
to mfd1402:

interesting. I thought it was Goodlatte bill as he was there in the meeting too
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Posted by mfd1402 (3166) 11 Jan 2018#189
to riant99:

He was there in the meeting and he opposed this bill the reason why it was rejected ..... the Dems just want the refugees and latinos they dont care for legal backlogs just like BO who wasted 8 years doing nothing
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Posted by dragonballz (12) 11 Jan 2018#190
to mfd1402:

Looks like rerouting 50K diversity visas to TPS was tossed out - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-at...
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Posted by mfd1402 (3166) 11 Jan 2018#191
to dragonballz:

Looks like Trump is bieng sensible ..... why bring in low skilled uneducated ppl .... instead give the 50k visas to deserving high skilled ppl ..... I hate the Dems always running after the freaking latinos and refugees ... no empathy for us skilled backlogs ..... they just use us for blathering @ thier rallies .....
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Posted by thereislight (456) 11 Jan 2018#192
to rajivn786:


I think you are talking about old news. The Goodlatte bill is good for us as the numbers I had pointed out earlier. Not the full country cap removal we expected, but a big step in the right direction. Potentially, Indians get a bump of about 25K visas each in Eb2/3.
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Posted by waitforever123 (461) 11 Jan 2018#193
to thereislight:

You should read it more carefully, many already noted that is wrong information.
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Posted by mfd1402 (3166) 11 Jan 2018#194


I think you are talking about old news. The Goodlatte bill is good for us as the numbers I had pointed out earlier. Not the full country cap removal we expected, but a big step in the right direction. Potentially, Indians get a bump of about 25K visas each in Eb2/3.

to thereislight:



If only it is included .... the Dems will never agree to give us the 50k visas they would rather give Trump the 15 billion to make the walll and get the 50k for the TPS refugeess
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Posted by dreamerforever (86) 11 Jan 2018#195

Looks like rerouting 50K diversity visas to TPS was tossed out - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-at...

to dragonballz:



those sleazy democratic rats and the fake republican flake! This was the best part:


Graham and Durbin thought they would be meeting with Trump alone and were surprised to find immigration hard-liners such as Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) and Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), at the meeting. The meeting was impromptu and came after phone calls this morning, Capitol Hill aides said.

Although i hate trump for planning to rescind H4ead, he is a master negotiator......Since he brought this DACA bombshell, ddemocrats have even stopped asking about the DACA parents whom they wanted to be legalized LOL....

One way or the other now they are forced to pay for his wall...
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Posted by mfd1402 (3166) 11 Jan 2018#196
to dreamerforever:

Yeah BO spent 8 years and did nothing for the backlogs and he had so many options i.e visa recapture etc that would have helped
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Posted by rahul408 (181) 11 Jan 2018#197
to dreamerforever:

Well said. I dont like what Trump did with H4 EAD. Its inhuman.

But he is the one who wants to bring smart immigrants here unlike democrats who love dreamers.
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Posted by mfd1402 (3166) 11 Jan 2018#198
to rahul408:

If it were me I would add a 15% annual tax for DACA ppl it would help balance the budget
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Posted by Iamcrazy (44) 11 Jan 2018#199

Looks like rerouting 50K diversity visas to TPS was tossed out - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-at...

to dragonballz:

“Trump attacks protections for immigrants from ‘shithole’ countries in Oval Office meeting”

That is why I like Trump, he backed the house version of the bill 55K additional visas to EB instead of senate version that give 50K visas to TPS.
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Posted by mfd1402 (3166) 11 Jan 2018#200
to Iamcrazy:

maybe he should make the DACA ppl pay for the wall .... include a wall tax for all DACA ppl
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